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dt99999
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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I don't see what those two bring to the table but I don't agree with that I think that would be shifting the blame that the GM specifically took on himself.
He stood up and said "it's my fault" and then did absolutely nothing.
Blaming assistant coaches for the mess would have been low.
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Xizord
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I am Eklund, QC Joined: 01.03.2007
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Would have loved to see Crawford here ! |
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Would have loved to see Crawford here ! - Xizord
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I don't see what those two bring to the table but I don't agree with that I think that would be shifting the blame that the GM specifically took on himself.
He stood up and said "it's my fault" and then did absolutely nothing.
Blaming assistant coaches for the mess would have been low. - dt99999
Bergevin has to be accountable for his words. If he won't fire Therrien, Molson should fire them all.
If the Habs have a horrible start and they decide to fire Therrien, who are the candidate for the next head coach. |
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ehabs9
Florida Panthers |
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Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC Joined: 07.15.2009
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Bergevin has to be accountable for his words. If he won't fire Therrien, Molson should fire them all.
If the Habs have a horrible start and they decide to fire Therrien, who are the candidate for the next head coach. - Champ
If I'm being honest I kind of hope they poop the bed next season (even if it's only for the first 1/3 or so), I just want that smug turd of a GM to have to eat crow.
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Still hard to believe the habs have stood pat and not cleaned house. Head Coach vs Star Player, who is gonna win there?! And the GM is utterly responsible for the roster issues. A fresh group from GM down really would bebest there IMO |
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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: QC Joined: 07.03.2008
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Would have loved to see Crawford here ! - Xizord
Why? |
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ehabs9
Florida Panthers |
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Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC Joined: 07.15.2009
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Still hard to believe the habs have stood pat and not cleaned house. Head Coach vs Star Player, who is gonna win there?! And the GM is utterly responsible for the roster issues. A fresh group from GM down really would bebest there IMO - Roadrunner75
Not an uncommon opinion |
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Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Quebec City, QC Joined: 02.16.2009
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Why? - stinger67
Well at this point anybody else. Who is good enough in the current coaching staff right now, except Waite? The one responsible for the powerplay? The one responsible for the often stated "porous defence all year who didn't give Condon a chance"? |
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ehabs9
Florida Panthers |
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Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC Joined: 07.15.2009
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Well at this point anybody else. Who is good enough in the current coaching staff right now, except Waite? The one responsible for the powerplay? The one responsible for the often stated "porous defence all year who didn't give Condon a chance"? - Popofjc
Statistically the defence has actually been bad for the last 4 years, Price just covered it up well |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Well at this point anybody else. Who is good enough in the current coaching staff right now, except Waite? The one responsible for the powerplay? The one responsible for the often stated "porous defence all year who didn't give Condon a chance"? - Popofjc
defense is not on the coach, it's on the GM. |
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ehabs9
Florida Panthers |
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Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC Joined: 07.15.2009
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defense is not on the coach, it's on the GM. - Symba007
I'd say it's on both. If the players are bad that's the GM and if the system is bad that's the coach. In my opinion they both suck |
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Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Quebec City, QC Joined: 02.16.2009
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defense is not on the coach, it's on the GM.
Well there is a position right now called "Assistant-coach responsible of defensemen". Isn't he supposed to to something to help the team? Else why he's here? What does he do all day?
You can blame the individual players for some things that are proper to them only, but when everyone of the D does the same thing (endless icings and dumps along the boards that gives the puck back to the other team, no organized breakout, giving a lot of shots against each game), that's the system that is the problem. And it's the coaching staff that decide and implement the system. |
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Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Quebec City, QC Joined: 02.16.2009
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Statistically the defence has actually been bad for the last 4 years, Price just covered it up well - ehabs9
Exactly. To see if a team D structure is good, don't look at the team rankings in number of goals against, because that's 75% or more on the goalie. Look for example at the rankings in number of shots against, that's a number only it impact. And Habs have been bad for a long time in this rankings.
Habs don't play a defensive-first system, or if they think they do they are failing hard at it. Which make it even more infuriating when the coach refuse to give big minutes to the youngsters because "they are not ready defensively" and instead give it to the usual veterans. Which aren't better if you look at those stats. |
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ehabs9
Florida Panthers |
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Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC Joined: 07.15.2009
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Exactly. To see if a team D structure is good, don't look at the team rankings in number of goals against, because that's 75% or more on the goalie. Look for example at the rankings in number of shots against, that's a number only it impact. And Habs have been bad for a long time in this rankings.
Habs don't play a defensive-first system, or if they think they do they are failing hard at it. Which make it even more infuriating when the coach refuse to give big minutes to the youngsters because "they are not ready defensively" and instead give it to the usual veterans. Which aren't better if you look at those stats. - Popofjc
Exactly. Habs have been one of the pooptier teams in terms of shot attempts against and scoring chances against for years. They claim to be a puck possession team, but stats point to them spending more of their time chasing the play.
The season Price put up last year is made all the more amazing because of the fact the Habs don't play particularly well in any regard in front of him. Part of that is on the coach for poor systems, and part of it is on the GM for the poor personnel he's put together. People seem to be divided on who to blame, but as far as I'm concerned they're both bad.
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